John Todd a former Illuminatist: (The Purpose of the Charismatic Movement & Rock Music)

March 6, 2006 25 Comments
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  1. david1057 says:

    Part of the problem we have with judging is that when people say “judge” they usually mean or imply “condemn.” But judging means much more than that.
    “To judge” means “to make a distinction” or “to separate.” You judge every day, in every aspect of life. You had to make a judgment in order to decide what clothes to wear today, or what to eat. You’re also responsible for judging between truth and error. WE ARE CALLED TO DO SO!

  2. david1057 says:

    By verse 5 it becomes clear. Jesus wasn’t saying, “Don’t judge.” He was saying, “Don’t judge your brother without first judging yourself.” His exhortation was to remove the plank or beam from your brother’s eye first, so that you can see clearly to remove the speck of sawdust from your brother’s eye.

  3. david1057 says:

    Finish the quote all the way to verse 5 for the proper context:
    Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye. Like I explained before, this is in the contexts of hypocritical judgment. What are U going to do with verses like:
    judge righteous judgment. (Matt. 7:1-5) & He who’s spiritual? judges all things? (1Cor. 2:15)
    Luke 6:37 its about the same thing. Study your bible before you quote from it.

  4. Coby50 says:

    Matt. 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

    Lucas 6:37Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

  5. david1057 says:

    @Coby50 No. Jesus said not to judge hypocritical & to take care of our own sins before pointing out the sins on others. My sins have been washed by the blood of Christ & now I can see clearly & point out the sins of others as we should do. The bible also says judge righteous judgment. (Matthew 7:1-5 KJV) In addition, it also says: He who is spiritual judges all things. (1 Corinthians 2:15 KJV)
    So you need to spend more time in the Word rather than the world.

  6. Coby50 says:

    I am not.
    I just mean to explain that it is not up to us to judge a man.
    Jesus says do not judge.
    Judgment belong to the Lord and the Lord alone.
    John Todd’s message is good. I’ll leave it to that.

  7. david1057 says:

    @Coby50 That’s irrelevant. The fact is that because of Keith Green, we now have the blasphemy of Christian Rock.
    He is the father of this sin of mixing worldly satanic music, with christian lyrics.
    Can you make a pig a woman if you dress it like a woman?
    Neither can we sanctify the unholy by mixing holy components into it. We don’t have that authority. I already gave you several examples, stop trying to make a god out of this man.

  8. Coby50 says:

    Keith Green was a rockmusician in a rockcafe.
    After he got saved, he started to make music for God, to teel the good news about Jesus Christ.
    It was not the other way around.
    Keith dod not want to work for the record companies. He just wanted to tell people about Jesus. He funded Pro Life (against abortion).
    God used Keith for His kingdom. Keith’s sings are a blessing for a lot of people.
    I do not have any Idols. I just know that this guy was not one of them.

  9. david1057 says:

    @Coby50 It doesn’t matter what a documentary says. What matters its what the Bible (The Word of God) Says. And the bible tells us that we are not to mix the Holy with the unholy, which is exactly what “Christian Rock” is. Music that originated in Witchcraft & rebellion, mixed with Christian lyrics. While you want me to be careful in what I say, you ought to be careful in what you listen to & who you follow. Do not make idols of mortals like you.

  10. Coby50 says:

    You do not not what you are saying.
    Have you ever seen the documentary of Keith Greens life?
    You have to be very careful with your words.
    God let it happen, because he always has everything under control, but He did not kill Keith and his sun, his little boy as a punishment.
    Keith was prolife remember?! and so is his wife still.
    And God did not kill John Todd either, just as he did not kill all the christians that dies for their belief. God’s enemies did and God took them home.

  11. david1057 says:

    @Coby50 Keith Green was one of the first ones to mix the holy with the unholy with his oxymoron “Christan Rock”.
    For this reason, Keith Green paid the price before God.

  12. Coby50 says:

    I don’t believe Keith Green was part of the system of Jesus Rock.
    He did not want to go along with the rules of the Christian music label.
    He wanted to give the records for free for those who did not have the money a.o.
    His plane crashed, and he and his son got killed.
    So, I would not put his picture along with the other rock-musicians.

  13. its the truth tho do ur resesarch!!!!!!!!

  14. david1057 says:

    @FishyMoe That would really be your problem.

  15. bigwheat3000 says:


  16. FishyMoe says:

    sorry I don’t believe this.

  17. john todd gave alot of good info. they killed his claims with saying he’s krazy etc..

    checkout tharealest talk on the net on my channel

  18. david1057 says:

    @lopytube Its never too late, specially when we can use our knowledge to teach others.

  19. david1057 says:

    @leepdaguy I thought I answered this question a long time ago, & here it is again pending as a new one. I don’t know what’s going on with youtube.
    Any way, to “re answer” your question we can’t say 100% that what happen to your mother was a sorely direct result to your music; however I believe it was a contributing factor. There are other factors to consider, such as generational curses etc.

  20. lopytube says:

    Interesting,I know about how some music opens a certain part of perception in your brain(can actually be proven)But I will look more into this.Eventhough Im kinda 50yrs late lol

  21. @david1057
    I agree yet we should seek the truth, I must say brother it has been a revelation for me.
    I sent you a PM this message stuff is not working for me.

  22. david1057 says:

    I trust God enough to give Him credit for looking after His own Word & foreseeing over all translations of the bible into the many languages that He created. We also need to understand that if God would have intended for all of us to understand Greek, He would not have made the other languages.

  23. david1057 says:

    We need to be careful with books that claim to have a more “correct translation” of words in the bible further claiming, to be more correct in the language used during Jesus times. The truth is that we don’t know if those type of statements are actually true, & we sure can’t depend, nor trust men. Specially in these days that the bible forewarned us concerning deceiving & being deceived.

  24. @david1057
    KJV is the only holy book, I have a expository dictionary that has translated greek words form the times of Jesus. The KJC was a bit confused because the scriputures were not written in classic greece but greece that was spoken.
    You are very very correct….many words have been changed.

    no one knows the absolute truth, it is a path that we are on.

    PM me, you have a very excellent channel OF TRUTH.

  25. david1057 says:

    @lopytube Rock music was born out of voodoo rituals in Africa. The beats & the rhythms were used to invoke demon spirits in these rituals. It’s no wonder that where Rock & roll is, there’s also sex & drugs.
    This is why, ever since the introduction of Rock music in this country, society has gotten worse with each generation.

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